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  • Message ID: #8
  • Subject: How do you measure your career success?
  • Date: 2007-04-04
    I agree with the gist of what you are saying, but I think your terminology is confusing and not in conformance with the terminology normally used in the social sciences.  What your refer to as relative standards would normally be referred to as individual standards and what you refer to as absolute standards would be referred to group standards.  I think it's important to change your terminology for three reasons:  first, by using the normative terminology, you hook into a whole body of sociological literature and amplify your argument by invoking that literature.  Second, there's multiple standards within a group as well as different standards between groups that can be compared against each other rather than thinking of a single absolute standard that reflects whether there is cooperation or not within a group.  So, for example, we might compare the group standards for athleticism within the Asian-American group to the group standards within the Afro-American group.  Are there differences, if so, what do they reflect?  Third, group standards are born within historical contexts of time and place.  For example, what is the history behind the group expectation within New York City that policman and firemen will be disporportionatedly Irish?  Was is always this way or was this the result of anti-draft activity during the Civil War?
    
    Lastly, I do want to commend your emphasis on the group point of view of standards.  I definitely agree.  For example, most of the Asian-American community does not realize that if admissions at Stanford University undergraduate program were based on SAT and grades alone, Stanford College would be 73% Asian female, not just Asian, but Asian female.  Instead, we think that if our daughter did not get into Stanford, then there must be something wrong with her - she did not do enough sports, her scores were not high enough, her SAT's were not perfect when in fact, the number of Asian females that will be accepted to Stanford was set before any of them even applied.  Similary, in a school like Stuyvesant High School in New York City, Harvard has a preset limit of 10 students that they will accept from Stuyvesant no matter whether you are Einstein or Ghandi.  Given the fact that Stuyvesant student body is over half Asian, that means we are again looking at a quota system stacked up against Asian-American students from the git-go.  I won't even go into the admissions policy of Princeton which has set an artificially low limit on the percentage of Asian-American students it will accept for years.  In the 20th century, these limits were placed on Jewish applicants, but now it's Asian students.  So, yes, let's understand what the nature of our group standards are and the historical context in which they arise.  These group standards are what we should be fighting to raise.  Someday, someone will challenge these unAmerican restrictions on our rights to achieve.
    
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    Subject: How do you measure your career success?

    This is my first communication with you as the President of 80-20
    Educational Foundation. I'm no longer the President of 80-20 PAC. The
    focus of my messages will shift from political actions to educational
    endeavors. However, the goal will be the same -- urging AsAms to strive
    on and become an equal partner in the shaping of the American Dream.

    See if you approve of my first attempt below. Post your feedback by
    visiting http://www.80-20educationalfoundation.org/posterboard.html.
    It will help me and be read by other 80-20 supporters.

    For today, let's talk about "How Do You Measure Your Career Success?"

    Most of us are smart, well educated, and have good work-ethics. How
    come statistically AsAms still face a very low glass ceiling at work? So few
    AsAm Federal and State judges? Our kids face a higher admission bar?

    The apparent reason is that we lack political maturity and unity. The
    real reason is that we use the WRONG STANDARD to measure our career
    success. Let me illustrate.

    Something in our culture has induced most of us to measure our
    career success by a RELATIVE STANDARD. We compare our own
    career achievement with those of our best friends, closest relatives,
    classmates and colleagues. With such a standard, when some of them are
    more successful than us, we feel like failures in comparison. With that
    frame of mind, can we ever succeed in networking? No way. We will not
    help "them," because we will be failures in comparison. Naturally then,
    "they" will not help us.

    Do you agree that climbing ladders in America depends heavily on net-
    working? Do you agree that the best persons to network with will be your
    best friends, closest relatives, former classmates and former/current
    colleagues?

    We need to adopt an ABSOLUTE standard of measuring our career
    success -- a standard adopted by most Americans of non-Asian extraction.

    What is the absolute standard? How would that help?

    In an absolute standard of measuring career success, one sets a goal e.g.
    "within x years I want to achieve a particular career goal." One then
    joins or establishes a network while sharing one's career ambition with
    members of the network asking for help and helping back. In such a
    relationship, the successes of one's friends/relatives/colleagues become
    one's own power base to achieve career goals. The more successful they
    are, the more they are in a position to help YOU succeed.

    When AsAms switch from a relative to an absolute standard of
    measuring career success, we, as AsAm individuals, will begin to work
    together. If AsAm organizations begin to set absolute standard for its
    organizational achievement, AsAm organizations will begin to work
    together, which will lead to unity within our community. UNITY IS POWER.
    Power is what we need to eliminate the glass ceiling and higher admission
    bar.

    Post your feedback & comments please. It's time that Asian Americans
    discuss openly our stupid relative standard of measuring success. The
    price for it is a splintered community, meekly and helplessly accepting a
    low glass ceiling for ourselves and a higher admission standard for our
    kids.

    In addition, a relative standard is a self-imposed limitation on one's
    own career. An absolute standard frees you from that limitation and
    the consuming jealousy.
    :

    PREVIEW for next email: "How to switch to an absolute standard & win."

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