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Comment/feedback # 50
| 请打开http://yaonv2wfsy.blog.163.com/edit。凡有初中物理知识和法律常识的人一看，迫害事件一目了然。 我爸爸叫李恩洪，我叫李娇娇（幺女儿）。以1979年2月至2008年7月止的时间，地点、人物及证据揭露共产党职能部门违背新中央政策：我爸爸29年坚持汇报自然科学发现和控告公检法腐败；包括宣传媒体和职能部门及信访部门，都披着共产党的外衣肆意愚弄和公开迫害我爸爸。 ... more ... |
Comment/feedback # 49
| Very Nice Site! Thanx! http://excellent-credit-card.blogspot.com For commenting on #49 |
Comment/feedback # 48
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Comment/feedback # 47
| More Asian Americans should engage in media and politics. Of course, any other professions such as law, banking, and education should help our causes. We did better in the professional sector with more leaning in serving others, rather than in advocating. For commenting on #47 |
Comment/feedback # 46
| I've always had this idea that if Asian Americans' TV and especially movie theater watching habits could be controlled or organized for instance 80-20 decides that Asian Americans collectively will only go out to a new movie if it stars at least one or two Asian American actors and/or any new Hollywood movie will be seen during the 3rd week of release just so people will know what the Asian American count is. Then we'll be able to tell how much marketability we have in selecting and viewing mov ... more ... |
Comment/feedback # 45
| We, as Asian American, need to fight for ourselves. I'm sure there are opportunities but we may have to work harder to get them. I've been lucky that I was given that opportunity. It wasn't easy. I have always been given the most difficult task but I manage to deliver. I always fought for my right. In the end, I was given the right promotions and increases. But, remember, you need to fight for it. You need to negotiate with your company what they should give you if you deliver. Also, you ... more ... |
Comment/feedback # 44
| Jealousy and badmouthing are never good weapon to promote yourself. Only those self-esteem deserve other's respect. For commenting on #44 |
Comment/feedback # 43
| My wife and I seem always busy with current issues on hands (work, kid, and dogs). We hardly sit down and talk about person success at home or with friends. I guess we are lucky to be in Silicon Valley, a very liberal place. We either didn't want to be a manager while being asked or had been in various level of management assignments. I still recall that in a 20K-people company-wide manager meeting, you would see most of having black hairs. It is also true you would see much less if the ... more ... |
Comment/feedback # 41
| where is feedback 25 and 26? For commenting on #41 |
Comment/feedback # 42
(A feedback on # 41
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| When the editors were adding a new feature to enable viewers to comment on feedbacks, we did a number of TEST messages which numbered sequentially from comments 25 to 31. They were then eliminated after the testing was over. So a viewer will not find comments from 25 to 31. Thus far the editor has NOT deleted any comments from viewers. However, the editor does have the ability to delect messaages which are obscene and/ot terroristic. For commenting on #42 |
Comment/feedback # 40
| The topic is critical but I don't agree. I don't believe AsAms are (or should be) any different than rest of America when it comes to relative standards. At its core, American (for better or worse) culture is rooted in relative standards. We are driven to compare and compete, which implies a relative standard. It starts at a very young age. In addition, the corporate world endorses the relative standard. One's promotion, pay raise, etc. is driven by one's performance relative to someone el ... more ... |
Comment/feedback # 39
| It is a shame to say that this is the first email by 80-20 that I actually read carefully. I am amazed by the message about the relative standard most asian people use, yet it is so true. I definitely agree that an absolute standard needs to be applied for us, so that we are not just satified our small success over a competition with our friends. I am looking forward to the following emails regarding how to set this absolute standard. Thanks. For commenting on #39 |
Comment/feedback # 38
| Lack of net-working is certainly one of the factors contributing to the disappointing state of the AsAms today. Perhaps equally important, if not more critical, is the prevailing Chinese attitude of staying away from politics or public affairs in general. In an open society like the United States, the only way for minority groups such as AsAms to gain some political relevance is participation. But there are encouraging news among the younger generation. A notable example is the election of a ... more ... |
Comment/feedback # 35
| Are managers decision makers? or are managers direction followers who simply transfers responsibility to the people he/she manages from his/her superiors? If managers falls in the 2nd case, then managers are simply a layer of the american bureacracy. If managers falls in the 1st case, then the decision he/she makes can have important implications in his/her organizations. For commenting on #35 |
Comment/feedback # 36
(A feedback on # 35
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| Hi, this is S.B. Woo. Thank you for asking me about the government's definition of "management" referred to in my comments on Feedback 13. In private industries, management could mean supervisors in a small company to CEOs of Fortune 500 companies. In universities, management could mean department heads, assistant director of a library or a computer center to Presidents of universities. In the Federal government, management means career Senior Executive Service workers. For commenting on #36 |
Comment/feedback # 37
(A feedback on # 36
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| I think many AsAms are high achievers. This high Achieve behavior is stress in many Asian Families and cultures. However, I'm sure having high achiever thoughts or amibitions doesn't necessarily mean he/she would want to be part of the greater american corporate bureacracy. Maybe thats the reason, among many other reasons why there are many Asian small to medium size businesses in this country especially in large cities such as NY/SF/or LA. Afterall, isn't it true that slowly climbi ... more ... |
Comment/feedback # 34
| Good effort! Thank you for sharing your thoughts! For commenting on #34 |
Comment/feedback # 32
| Seems to me that both are necessary. The absolute should be based on how much one is utilizing ones talents and abilities, whether or not one feels satisfied with his/her contributions to family/society/country/mankind, and whether one feels that he/she has the achieved the proper balance in terms of career "success" and personal development in other areas, and family/social responsibilities. The relative comes into play when observing what one's colleagues do to achieve "success", and what t ... more ... |
Comment/feedback # 24
| The standard that we use to measure our success is a very important, but a also quite difficult question. The first thing to think about is just what do we here mean by "success?" The success comes through the achievement of certain goals. But what goals? We all have certain goals that we share (some sort of financial security, a good social life, intellectual maturity, etc.) and other goals that are perhaps distinctive of the individual. The success that was talked about by Mr. Woo was ... more ... |
Comment/feedback # 23
| good thinking! I'd agree with you.... For commenting on #23 |
Comment/feedback # 22
| I enjoy reading this email greatly and agree with the point entirely. The discussion of relative standard and the absolute standard issue is the key! For commenting on #22 |
Comment/feedback # 21
| I am impressed by Mr. Woo articles (political before and educational now). Thank you for your efforts. Your analysis is refreshing. I think the absolute/relative standards theory explains part of the problems. There are many other factors such as communication, leadership initiatives, etc. For commenting on #21 |
Comment/feedback # 20
| Plausible idea, but more of a hunch than anything. How do you know that Asian Americans actually network less because of the relative standard? I think you should design studies for this before actually going out to change a standard that might not exist. Besides, its not like Non-Asian Americans don't envy each other. For commenting on #20 |
Comment/feedback # 19
| This was a very refreshing e-mail. I had not really thought of how a relative standard versus an absolute standard would make us jealous, rather than motivating us. I think it's shades of gray sometimes, because people will often say they are using comparisons with others to help point out what lessons we can learn from the ones we're being compared to, but when they do it too often, I think it's easy to slip into jealous comparisons. Jing For commenting on #19 |
Comment/feedback # 18
| I think Mr Woo comment are very valid. However, from my own experience, in addition to the "relative, absolute" theory that Mr Woo talked about, there are many other factors that may have play a role in this complicated subject in this complicated society we all lived in. While it is true that many of us may lack a "well" defined "absolute" career goal, it is also true that having a "well" defined "absolute" goal doesn't necessarily mean the goal is a realistically attainable one. Pers ... more ... |
Comment/feedback # 17
| I am glad to see that there is finally a public forum to have an honest discourse on these issues but I am disappointed to hear that Mr. Woo is still spewing illogical thoughts and advocating divisive actions that ultimately will not result in increased opportunities for AsAms. If Mr. Woo is going to be head of the Educational Foundation, he should take a moment to think about education and stop with his political crap. The real focus should be on how we as a talented minority segment of the o ... more ... |
Comment/feedback # 16
| Thank you S.B. for shedding light on this important issue. I agree with you because I admittedly fall into this kind of thinking trap sometimes. Needless to say, this kind of lack of security impairs one's chance to realize his/her full potential, and similarly a group/organization's potential. I think many will be benefited if this problem can be identified. I look foward to your next letter. -G.H. For commenting on #16 |
Comment/feedback # 15
| Well said. Totally agree! I have a question though. I am helping alumni interviews for a very selective university. About half of all applicants from my county are Asian Pacific but only ~19% of the admitted students this year is Asian Pacific. I do notice on average significantly higher grades among the Asian students, but I suppose multiple criteria were used which is not unreasonable. How do we deal with things that are less tangible? How to set a criteria that determines whether ce ... more ... |
Comment/feedback # 14
| In response to the second half of Message #8, I would submit that if colleges used only test scores and grades for their admission criteria and as a result only Asian Americans are admitted, it would not be in the best interests of the college nor of the students. My son is an A+ student with 800s on his SATs but did not get into Stanford. While I'm extremely disappointed, I vigorously defend Stanford's right to use a broad mix of criteria for selecting a diverse student body that is in the ... more ... |
Comment/feedback # 13
| I am a very successful Chinese immigrant and extremely proud of my heritage and cultural roots. I have succeeded in the business world and have seen absolutely no evidence of the glass ceiling that S.B. Woo rants about. Mr. Woo's data and analysis on this subject is highly flawed because it completely ignores the demand among Asian Americans for the many positions he analyzed. I would venture to say that in many cases, a much smaller proportion of Asian Americans are interested in those posi ... more ... |
Comment/feedback # 33
(A feedback on # 13
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| For those of you who may not know 80-20's data and analysis on the glass ceiling on Asian Americans in workplaces, please visit http://www.80-20educationalfoundation.org/wpad.jpg which is a full page ad on Washington Post. This information has been read into the Congressional Record by Senator Tom Carper on 9/21/06. Visit http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgibin/getpage.cgi?dbname=2006_record&page=S9875&position=all See the last column of that page. The above statistics cover 1.9 AsAm mi ... more ... |
Comment/feedback # 12
| Unity and building political clout have been Mr. Woo's objectives, from my standpoint. Years ago a Philippino-American nurse in San Francisco solicited my email address for 80-20. I honestly have to admit that I am not quite united with my fellow Asian-Americans in the 80-20 community. I occasionally read Mr. Woo's collective emails and announcements, and was occasionally inspired by his words. While I was poor graduate student raising two kids, one day I decided to send Mr. Woo a $25.00 dona ... more ... |
Comment/feedback # 11
| I think you are absolutely right. I want to point out another problem with Asian Americans, and in particular, the Chinese Americans. Many of us have a tendency to judge our own by a higher standard. Many of us also have a tendency not to bring in other qualified Asian Americans for fear of being charged as giving preferential treatment of our own ethnic group. In other ethnic groups, we see a different phenomenon. When one gets in, he/she will do his/her best to bring in others from the s ... more ... |
Comment/feedback # 10
| Very refreshing thoughts about our community. For commenting on #10 |
Comment/feedback # 9
| There's a lot of truth in what you say. Culturally, Asian groups value education, hard work, and excelling at one's job. But that only makes us into great backoffice workers - the go-to attorney in your office, the brilliant programmer, the accountant who always has an answer for every tax problem. It doesn't make us into leaders. Success in this country is much more about whom you know than how good you are. For commenting on #9 |
Comment/feedback # 8
| I agree with the gist of what you are saying, but I think your terminology is confusing and not in conformance with the terminology normally used in the social sciences. What your refer to as relative standards would normally be referred to as individual standards and what you refer to as absolute standards would be referred to group standards. I think it's important to change your terminology for three reasons: first, by using the normative terminology, you hook into a whole body of sociolog ... more ... |
Comment/feedback # 7
| I agree with you, thank you for your continuous efforts. For commenting on #7 |
Comment/feedback # 6
| Excellent commentary. Our "relative success" needs to be compared in absolute terms. I could not agree more. We should not accept being relegated to the status of modern day coolies. We must support each other in our efforts to gain equality. For commenting on #6 |
Comment/feedback # 5
| Dear S.B.: Thank you for sending me the e-mail regarding 80-20 Educational Foundation. It is a great idea to educate all Asian Americans about the absolute standards concept and I want to congratulate you on this initiative. I agree with you about unity, low statistics on "achievement", higher bar on admission to colleges/universities, and many others. These are important issues need to be addressed and educated to all AsAms. On the other hand, I think we also need to educate and promot ... more ... |
Comment/feedback # 4
| I do agree with your thoughts about creating absolute standards for our careers! Just as the right performance measures and implementing them properly are important to the success of an organization, this concept also applies to individuals and their careers as well. Choosing the right mix of measures and standards is quite important. For instance, success measures for those in academia might be: - No. of years spent in academia before tenure was achieved - No. of years spent in academia ... more ... |
Comment/feedback # 3
| Career Success should not be individualistic. It should be a team achievement for all to share and support. Asian americans lack this skill and team playing. There must be shared support and networking and not for the self goal and success. Because it stops there. Asian americans should learn and follow the successful model set down by Jewish Americans. Look at their success stories. Also, Asian Americans must be divest. It should not concentrate on just Science, Math, Finance, Acoun ... more ... |
Comment/feedback # 2
| This is an interesting commentary. It seems as though all minority groups have something to learn about "unity" from others. I remember reading an African American commentary about Asian American economic success and that one of the major reasons Asian Americans fare so much better than their African American counterparts was Asian Americans were far better at investing or spending their earned income on businessess owned and operated by other Asian Americans. I don't remember the exact figures ... more ... |
Comment/feedback # 1
President, 80-20 EF [SB]| This is our first attempt. I need your feedback please. Thank you. For commenting on #1 |
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Subject: How do you measure your career success? This is my first communication with you as the President of 80-20 See if you approve of my first attempt below. Post your feedback by For today, let's talk about "How Do You Measure Your Career Success?" Most of us are smart, well educated, and have good work-ethics. How The apparent reason is that we lack political maturity and unity. The Something in our culture has induced most of us to measure our Do you agree that climbing ladders in America depends heavily on net- We need to adopt an ABSOLUTE standard of measuring our career What is the absolute standard? How would that help? In an absolute standard of measuring career success, one sets a goal e.g. When AsAms switch from a relative to an absolute standard of Post your feedback & comments please. It's time that Asian Americans In addition, a relative standard is a self-imposed limitation on one's PREVIEW for next email: "How to switch to an absolute standard & win." ANNOUNCEMENT: S. B. Woo will keynote an AAJA/NAAAP banquet on |
