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Comment/feedback # 27            

Informative     For commenting on #27

Comment/feedback # 28   (A feedback on # 27 )            
All measurements demonstrated here point at the same conclusion where AsAms are suffering from social unfairness where career advancement is one of evidences. There may many reasons for today's condition where history development, culture, value system, human psychology, personal preference and much more can count to it. Regardless of all above, if we don't struggle for the fairness we deserve from a civilized and democratic society, no one will give it to you. Fight unconditionally for ou ... more ...

Comment/feedback # 24            
It is interesting to know most educated group gets least promition. It seems Asia Americans have only one tool, i.e. education, while other groups have other means to advance their courses. Is it natural to say education is good but not good enough?     For commenting on #24

Comment/feedback # 25   (A feedback on # 24 )            
There are two big differences between AsAms and the other minorities: 1) Educational attainment in which AsAms excel, and 2) GROUP political clout which AsAms have ignored to our own detriment. Fortunately, more and more are awakening. I hope that it'll include every one who reads this comment. SB     For commenting on #25

Comment/feedback # 23            
The information in the emails (part 1 and part 2) was very good to know. It's a shame that the most educated group gets the least chance to be promoted.     For commenting on #23

Comment/feedback # 21            
Until Asian Americans learn not to seek that professorship, that business executive position, that teaching position, that medical degree, that law degree, and pursue becoming a governors, senators, representatives, their faces will not be seen by the millions, nor will their voice be heard by the those in the government, including the president and his staff. Lee     For commenting on #21

Comment/feedback # 22   (A feedback on # 21 )            
In time, more AsAm will run for governors, senators and representatives. But that kind of ambition and skill takes generations to develop. I was the only first AsAm immigrant to be elected Lt. Gov. To fight against discrimination in the meantime, forming NGOs like the 80-20 is a solution. SB     For commenting on #22

Comment/feedback # 19            
Many people believed in Obama; those that did their homework didn't - a real testimonial to the intelligence if the majority of the American voting public. But then Boxer, Feinstein, Pelosi, Read, Frank and many more have proven this over & over! It is said the people deserve whom they elect. By the way, how would a test of discriminatory practices of non-Asians in China compare to here? Please understand, although I am a Caucasian, I have a large Chinese family through marriage, that ... more ...

Comment/feedback # 20   (A feedback on # 19 )            
You stated: "By the way, how would a test of discriminatory practices of non-Asians in China compare to here?" Let's say that the situation is much worse there. Does that justify America's mistreatment of Asian Ams? Are we letting China set standards for our value system now? BTW, some of the first generation European immigrants to America were reluctant to assimilate as well. Remember the Germans, the Irish, the Polish and the Italians?     For commenting on #20

Comment/feedback # 17            
Consider sending this information to: The Honorable John Berry, Director, US Office of Personnel Management The Honorable Christine Griffin, Acting Vice Chair, Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, who will be the Deputy Director of OPM and who recently met with Asian American community leaders The Honorable Honda, US Member of Congress, Chair, Asian Pacific American Caucus Yann King, President, Asian American Government     For commenting on #17

Comment/feedback # 18   (A feedback on # 17 )            
thank you for you suggestions. YOY are doing YOUR part. :-) SB     For commenting on #18

Comment/feedback # 15            
Dear S.B, What actions should we take to close the gap? Wang Yung     For commenting on #15

Comment/feedback # 16   (A feedback on # 15 )            
Again, why do you think 80-20 is meeting with DOL? On the other hand, politics doesn't depend on facts, reasons and laws only. Politics depends on votes and money. That is why doing YOUR part to push along this movement to equal opportunity at workplaces for AsAm is so important. Have YOU supported 80-20 morally and financially? If the 15 million AsAm each does something to help this rightful demand along, E.O. 11246 will be enforced for AsAms the day after we finish the meeting with DOL. ... more ...

Comment/feedback # 13            
The article is informative. What are we waiting for? How long does President O'Bama need to enforce the law? I know that he has a lot on his plate now, but how much does it take to tell Sec. of Labor to enforce the law?     For commenting on #13

Comment/feedback # 14   (A feedback on # 13 )            
If you were Pres. Obama, would you want the Labor Dept. to verify the data for you first? If you do, then what do you think is one of the purposes of 80-20's meeting with the Labor Dept. ? Please always do your part first, forward 80-20's message to all your friends. In addition, if you have disposal income, you might want to consider supporting 80-20 Educational Foundation financially. Visit http://www.80-20educationalfoundation.org./donate/donate.asp . Glad that you are getting impati ... more ...

Comment/feedback # 12            
Mr. Woo, Your data are very clear on the state of unequal opportunities for APAs in the American workforce. Please continue your good work in trying to get Secretary of Labor, Hilda Solis to start implementing the Executive Order. Just because APAs as a group has been reticent and acquiescent, does not mean that inequality for them does not exist. Thanks for being the voice and conscience of APAs in this country. Prof. Mon S. Yee     For commenting on #12

Comment/feedback # 10            
Informative     For commenting on #10

Comment/feedback # 8            
firs of all, thank you to 80-20 for doing all this work for the asian-american community. I was looking at the charts in this email. I found the first chart to be very easy to read, but the 2nd and 3rd chart required more attention to understand. I wonder if there's anyway to clear up the 2nd and 3rd charts so that the readers can grasp the point right away. Again, thank you for doing and publicizing these statistics, I find the statistics to be very informative.     For commenting on #8

Comment/feedback # 11   (A feedback on # 8 )            
Please see my answer to comment 7 below in order to understand Charts 1 and 3. Chart 2 is a straight forward plotting of government data http://www.census.gov/population/socdemo/education/ppl-169/tab01.xls . What may be confusing people is the black bar for Asian Ams. They are puzzled by why the black bar is so short for AsAms. The black bar represents the PERCENTAGE of AsAms, when COMPARED WITH THE NATIONAL AVE., who have a high school diploma ONLY! This bar is very short for AsAms becaus ... more ...

Comment/feedback # 7            
The chart III is not clear. What is the percentage on the right side representing? overall population of each race? How do you define chance opportunity?     For commenting on #7

Comment/feedback # 9   (A feedback on # 7 )            
The interpretation of chart III is identical to that of chart 1, except for the small pillboxes on top of each bar which indicate the changes in the lengths of the bars from 1996 to 2001. Hence your question is really about Chart 1. To understand the % axis at the left of Chart 1, you need to understand the blue dotted line. It is the "national average odds of being promoted to management." There is one average odds for each of the 3 catagories: priv. ind, univ., and fed. gov. How is the nat ... more ...

Comment/feedback # 5            
What's the situation in Delaware regarding "equal opportunity" in workplaces?     For commenting on #5

Comment/feedback # 6   (A feedback on # 5 )            
The University of Del. statistics I saw decades ago was almost identical to the nat'l statistics seen in 80-20's part 2 e-newsletter. In fact, that led to a meeting between the UD President, a few AsAm faculty members in UD, and me which got UD to begin paying attention to this matter. A associate provost was appointed later who is also an 80-20 member. Those UD statistics also got me to look into the national statistics, which are shown below. I don't have access to the private industrie ... more ...

Comment/feedback # 3            
Important     For commenting on #3

Comment/feedback # 2            
Exellently Informative!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - Munsup     For commenting on #2

Comment/feedback # 4   (A feedback on # 2 )            
Dear Munsup: We are friends. So you'll know that this reply is NOT directed at you but at the general public. Why do you think 80-20 wants to inform you? So that you can JOIN THE FIGHT! SB     For commenting on #4

Comment/feedback # 1            
This is a very improtant issue to Asian Americans. Only when all are treated equally, can we (USA) as a nation be truelly strong.     For commenting on #1

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        The Ugly Truth about AsAm Inequality (Part 2)

          This is Part 2 of the "Ugly Truth." To see Part 1,
                    go to the bottom of the web page:
                http://80-20nj.info/cgi/dm/8/bb/b35

   President Obama made an iron-clad promise to AsAms that he
would
         "issue a directive to the Labor Department asking it to focus
          on enforcing Exec. Order 11246 on behalf of Asian Americans."
The above is valid provided that there is
         "statistical data strongly suggesteing discriminatory practices
          against AsAms in workplaces today"
See a copy of Pres. Obama's solumn & signed commitment attached at the end.

             What Statistical Evidence Does 80-20 Have?

   80-20 has data to show that
         "Asian Americans have the least opportunity to enter
          management (See Chart I below), despite having the highest
          educational attainment. (See Chart II). We also have the slowest
          rate of progress toward equal opportunity (See Chart III)."

   Such data & more have been provided to the Dept of Labor, DOL, since
a month ago. Indeed, earlier in 2006, 80-20 bought a full page ad in
Washington Post to publicize these data.


   Be sure to focus on the small pillboxes above each of the bars in chart III. A
yellow/black pillbox denotes respectively the lengthening/shortening in each bar
from 1996 to 2001. Note that the increases in AsAm bars are only about ½
the sizes of those for women and Hispanics, although our bars are by far the
shortest. At this rate of progress, it'll take 75 years or 3 more generations,
before Asian Americans will enjoy equal opportunity. Are you outraged? .

   Are WE to continue being patient or timid? Or are WE to begin a
determined NATIONWIDE bid for equal opportunity?

   Rate this article as "Informative," or "Somewhat informative," or "Not
informative," or leave other comments at
http://www.80-20educationalfoundation.org/politicaledu/posterboard.asp .
Please do YOUR part to support and forward this series of messages.

Respectfully yours,

S. B.
President, 80-20 Educational Foundation, Inc.
  

Names & short bios of members of 80-20's DOL Meeting Team.

Ved Chaudhary of NJ, President, Educators Society for the Heritage of
   India (ESHI), Former Member, Board of Trustees, Rutgers Univ., N.J.,
   Assistant Commissioner, Dept. of Environmental Protection, NJ,
Chenming Hu of CA, Member of The US Academy of Engineering,
   Distinguished Chair professor of electrical engineering at Univ. of Calif,
   Berkeley, Chinese Academy of sciences; Academia Sinica,
Alice S. Huang of CA, President-elect of The American Assoc. for the
   Advancement of Science (AAAS), retire Porf. From Harvard, retired Dean
   of Science at NYU, retired member of the Divison of Biology, Calif.
   Institute of Technology, Member of Academic Sinica,
Henry Lee of NY & FL, President, The Financial Marketing Group, worked in
   McDonnell Douglas (Missile & Space Systems Division), Northrop Corp
   (Space Systems), General Electric, and Arabian American Oil Company,
S. B. Woo of DE & FL, President, 80-20 Educational Foundation; Lt. Gov.
   of Delaware (1985-89), former trustee, Univ. of Delaware, and
David Yang of DC, Associate Political Scientist, Rand Corporation, Former
   research fellow at Stanford Univ. specializing in democracy promotion
   and international development.

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ATTACHMENT: President Obama's signed commiment to our community: